2.21 “Zero Day” and 1.21 “Many Happy Returns”
Yes, they are cruel like that, POI’s screenwriters…
My heart …
“It’s more than just a light… It’s a signal. A signal to Gotham that their secret hope for justice, for a better tomorrow, isn’t just a fantasy.
Now let’s just hope the right people see it.”
Renee says here that she was seventeen when Batman took up the cowl/the bat signal was first used. How old would that make her in Gotham Central?
I always forget how long Batman’s been under the cowl. I feel like it’s been at least ten years by Gotham Central, according to Jim Gordon’s timeline, which would make Renee twenty-seven by Gotham Central. However, in 52, her license says she was born in 1970.
I don’t think Batman had been under the cowl for sixteen years (as he would have had to have been for the timelines to match up at that point).
I know I’ve figured this out before and things didn’t line up, especially since Benny and Renee’s conversation also placed things differently… I wonder if this is just a weird continuity error? I wonder which Greg considers correct.
If Renee WAS born in 1970, it would mean she met Kate when she was 27 (“ten years ago” by Elegy timeline). Which isn’t correct, either…
And yes, this is the kind of shit I think about at 8:30AM.
That way madness lies. Timeline continuity isn’t anchored to real time. A driver’s license that says someone was born in 1970 is meaningless in a universe where the heroes are locked at certain ages, ie, Batman is 33. Age is relative. My suggestion? They’re as old as you want them to be.
Relatively speaking I’ve not been reading comics on a regular basis for very long. Just a couple of years. Yet this seems something that I read a lot of in the online community, that I have never understood. The concept that the timelines and character ages could make sense with all of the stories that have been told, is a thankless and ultimately impossible (not to mention pointless) task. Superman has existed for 75 years. Could all of the stories told in that time actually fit into a cohesive timeline? Bigger question: do they need to? Answer to both is no.
Annoying press release thing: APPLE vs. SAGA #12
As has hopefully been clear from the first page of our first issue, SAGA is a series for the proverbial “mature reader.” Unfortunately, because of two postage stamp-sized images of gay sex, Apple is banning tomorrow’s SAGA #12 from being sold through any iOS apps. This is a drag, especially because our book has featured what I would consider much more graphic imagery in the past, but there you go. Fiona and I could always edit the images in question, but everything we put into the book is there to advance our story, not (just) to shock or titillate, so we’re not changing shit.
Apologies to everyone who reads our series on iPads or iPhones, but here are your alternatives for Wednesday:
1) Head over to you friendly neighborhood comics shop and pick up a physical copy of our issue that you can have and hold forever.
2) While you’re at it, don’t forget to support the Comic Book Legal Defense Fund, which helps protect retailers who are brave enough to carry work that some in their communities might consider offensive. You can find signed copies of Saga at the CBLDF site right now.
3) Download the issue directly through sites like https://comics.imagecomics.com or on your non-Apple smartphone or tablet.
4) If all else fails, you might be able to find SAGA #12 in Apple’s iBookstore, which apparently sometimes allows more adult material to be sold than through its apps. Crazy, right?
Anyway, special thanks to Eric Stephenson and everyone at Image for supporting our decision, and for always being so supportive of creators. Sorry again to readers for the inconvenience, but I hope everyone will be able to find an issue that Fiona and I are particularly proud of. And after you do, please check out PanelSyndicate.com, the new digital comics site I own with artist Marcos Martin, which remains 100% uncensored by corporate overlords.
“Too many people have died for no reason. Lets end this and save the bullets for the real threat.”
When I first saw this I thought the implication was that they should kill off the rest and be done with it. Not a bad idea, actually.
Sweet dreams from the many faces and personalities of the Joker…